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Destiny Lore: Echoes and the Taken King
Discussion on the mysteries surrounding the Echoes and the Taken King in Destiny 2.
Despite the campaigns not being as impactful, interesting threads exist in the lore.
The Concept of Echoes
Echoes are entities with powers obtained for personal reasons.
Inside each Echo, an entity communicates with subjects.
Characters like Maia Hadal and Cheles interact with these Echoes.
Unique characters emerge through these artifacts, unlike the witness which is a conglomerate.
Mystery of the Third Echo
Question of what or who is inside the third and final Echo.
Speculation that it could be the Taken King as the narrative returns to the Dreadnaught.
Oryx’s Death and Aftermath
Oryx was permanently killed in his throne world.
His body drifted toward Titan’s ocean post-death.
Royal Chase card hints at his remnants around Saturn and Titan.
Lucent Hive attempted to revive Oryx using necromancy and a ghost.
Part of his body still reacts and grows, though his worm is missing.
Possibility of Oryx’s Return
Oryx’s thoughts on his death and potential resurrection.
Idea of his conqueror inheriting his power and philosophy.
Possible return of Oryx through Echoes rather than physically.
His missing worm raises questions about its potential role in his return.
Relevance of Oryx’s Legacy
His philosophy of survival and adaptation continues to influence.
The Hive test his legacy through continued survival and power.
Speculation about Oryx’s role in future narratives, possibly through echoes rather than form.
The narrative builds on the potential for Oryx’s return in some form.
Speculation about possible connections and implications for future story developments.
The narrative hints at new story developments with the potential return of the taken King.
The lore explores themes of resurrection, power, and legacy among the Hive gods.
Future stories may explore the consequences and impacts of these developments.
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Destiny 2: Echoes and Oryx's Legacy
the third Echo orex the taken King from lore over the past couple of years we've gotten some updates or's body is in containment in the city parts of it still even live his worm is missing and a final Echo remains aboard his dreadn welcome Guardians today we discuss these Mysteries [Music] although episode Echoes and Destiny 2 overall haven't been hitting as hard as the final shapes campaign moments there is some interesting threads going on in the background to me the concepts of these Echo is kind of cool so far we've encountered two entities that have obtain the echo for powers of their own reasons but inside each Echo there's an entity speaking to those subjects mayia had to call commander of the KGO revenants might have cheles the Kell of stone it is interesting that one character specifically is making themselves known through these artifacts rather than a conglomerate kind of like the witness was The Echoes are made up of all these dead civilizations but only one seems to come to the Forefront as far as we know so this leaves the third question of course who or what is the entity inside the third and final Echo since we're returning to the dreadnut there is a possibility that it could be the taken King and today we'll discuss some theories and speculation orx was killed in his throne world so gone for good in terms of Hive and their lore this is the only way you can permanently kill a hive God think back to Season of the Witch last year AIS cut zeu off from her throne world meaning that if we find her and kill her it's going to be much easier theoretically parts of oro's body and life still remain though after his death his body would float away from the dreadn and towards Saturn remember that oro's Throne world is a little bit different it was in the material world space above his dreadn rather than being in an ascended plane or space like savathun's Throne world so or's body was able to drift and it was either pulled in by gravity and descended into Titan's Ocean or was brought into the ocean by the loosen Hive and their crashed ship the Royal Chase Card hints that something was still kicking around Saturn and Titan could just be the but Orcs is another possibility but as Guardians made our way deeper and fought Lucent enemies we saw it for ourselves the body of the taken King the Lucen Hive were trying to revive him with a ghost ior's hidden made it down here with their own Strike Team and took some samples where they learned that parts of orex were still alive and reacting his worm was also missing what appeared to be a silhouette of coral growth in the dark is revealed to be the mountainous remains of or the taken King The Hive gods and men's carcass lays strewn across Titan's seaf Flor both Lisbon 13 and furch are taken aback by the sight but Chalo advances toward it the loosen brood performed a ritual here Chalo motions to the shattered remnants of a hive ghosts on the ground we believe they were trying to forcibly resurrect orex by combining heretical Hive necromancy with the powers of that ghost they were disrupted lisman steps forward unable to look away from or's cadaverous face is that possible officially no unofficially Chalco glances at Lisbon that's what we're here to investigate the body is still active with taken energy and darkness the Guardians who intercepted this ritual reported finding free floating fragments of Consciousness in the way to this site memories from the corpse it's alive Fen Church Whispers hesitant to approach or's remains cellular analysis indicates slow but active mitosis explaining the exaggerated size of their remains when compared to the subject's last known physical dimensions the mind is gone but the body continues to grow autopsy reveal no presence of worm carcass within the taken King status unknown or's body still had taken energy and darkness inside it would cause side effects to these strike teams like hallucinations to anyone who got close the body to an extent would still be able to absorb knowledge and secrets it just couldn't respond and perhaps one of the scariest parts is the worm was missing and the Vanguard would take his body and store it in a vault somewhere likely in the last City so that was season of the deep and at that point they had both savathun and orex the biggest Hive Gods inside the city somewhere so can orex come back the answer is sure he could Bungie could find any way they want necromancy a ghost in the endure web lore from shadowkeep orex explains his thoughts on his own death saith orex I have made preparations if I am defeated I know it will be because my understanding of the universe was incomplete I know that I will fall to something Mighty something that craves might something that loves which I love which is a principle and a power The Versatile protean need to adapt and endure to reach out and shape the universe entirely for the purpose of endurance to mutate and redesign and test and iterate so that it can Prevail conce existence and hold it certain that this is everything that there is nothing to lie except living and it has two faces yet it is one shape one face is the objective which is to exist and that other face is that will to sacrifice things and ideas for a single Mission the mission of becoming the shape a shape that is a principle the utter commitment to survival to drawing the right sword and choosing where to cut that edge that sharpness that logic of swords so I will prepare a book which is a map to a weapon and my vanquisher will read that book seeking the weapon and they will come to understand me where I have been and where I was going and then they will take my weapon and they will use it they will use that weapon which is all that I am they will become me and I will become them each of us defeating the other correcting the other alloying ourselves into one one omnipotent philosophy thus I will live forever I mock sicker which means I make sure saith we The Hive orex our King is defeated in Echo and in form in world and in Throne his children are defeated his tribute is cut off his faithful son is Fallen his prodigal son entrapped and enervated by the will of the thousands who would use him as bait for richer feed yet we survive in our thousands of billions so numerous in our thriving mass that we could reach from moon to world and back to Moon if we stood upon each other's brows we live on by the law that we were taught the devouring of the unfree and that law is Manifest in our flesh which is paired to Bone by the knife of need and Challenge and we in our thousands of billions do possess a will let us test The Testament of our King who is orx let us challenge his legacy as he has challenged us for there is no Sher tribute to the dead than to kill all they left behind so that only the Invincible and necessary will endure he was not Invincible thus we must ask after the necessity of his legacy and the need to obey his taboo was not zeu a wrath beheaded and yet summoned back by oric who remembered her as war was not savathun beheaded and yet conquered back by orex who conspired with her cunning ayat it must now be so for if his legacy is true it will come onto us and defeat our blasphemy and if it is not what we attempt cannot be blasphemy for we have survived him and surpassed the power of His will aat aat aat I have died and yet was summoned back by you you who remembered me as War our sister died and was summoned back by you you who conspired with her cunning so it must be for now if your legacy is true brother if will come onto us and defeat our blasphemy and if not if not what we attempt cannot be blasphemy for we have survived you surpassed the power of your will I aat orc's thought was whoever kills me I will give them a weapon and I along with all of my ideas will live forever through this conqueror well this conqueror was the guardian and perhaps the touch of malice which he had created orex thought that death was possible but wanted a way to live forever the loosen Hive tried to bring him back and goes to the deep but I'm not sure if that's what he even would have wanted orc's Fortress returns in heresy along with his sisters so I'm assuming he has some part to play even if it's just zeu reference ing her brother whom she' had many entries about in Ghosts of the deep there is an end in sight now clearer than I have ever seen it the Horizon Narrows down to a single edge sharper than hope I see the final shape coming into focus in this cutting motion and the Deep sings its promises I crack my whip unto the Rhythm I guide your knife in between ribs even now alone you are my navigator if orx did return to me it would make more sense that it would be from a voice inside of an echo and not physically the Vanguard has his body unless something can be done with his worm though it is kind of interesting that Bungie mentioned it at all and that the worm was missing from the body so does someone have the worm did it escape and if so would it even be able to survive without this tribute defeat it we saw how that went with savathun's worm air here like fundament good to breathe again don't get used to it each Echo so far has connected with the character whom has acquired it to call with Maya's philosophies and thoughts and the Revenant Echo possibly cheles in the fact that it connects to elix history so who will connect with the next holder if zeu acquires it is it or inside the echo or this new Eldridge Force do you know the last time I spoke with my brother it was just before you killed him I told him he would die and he said I am always glad to die power to move worlds will soon be yours the taken King will rise again anyway Guardians that's all we got for today's video if you like to see some more Destiny news lore and Mysteries
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